"They willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing."
A classic WT statement.
Stan
the february 8, 2003 awake has an article entitled:"is there an unforgivable sin".notice the good news for apostates or those who once associated.
"some people who were once faithful christians have purposely drawn away from god, perhaps because of bitterness, pride, or greed, and are now apostate fighters against god's spirit.
they willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing.
"They willfully oppose what the spirit is clearly accomplishing."
A classic WT statement.
Stan
has anyone heard about a tape all jws were given recently that puports to show what they will all soon be suffering in the "war?
" someone posted about it on another site but had fairly limited information... i would be very interested in this tape as i am sure my ex will show this horror (assuming it exists) to my kids... i hear it is a terribly upsetting tape leving kids crying and upset for days.
my oldest has been acting out quite a bit and i wonder if maybe he's seen it... i can't ask him till he gets home from school.. thanks.
I know why the kids don't want to go with Dad:
I have kids who are forced by their jw dad to attend meetings, go door to door, listen to bible tapes etc etc
when you were a jw, how did you manage to say your "thank you's" before eating in a public place?.
or didn't you bother?.
englishman.
I never did talk to myself, I mean pray, before eating. It's a ritual, nothing more.
Stan
major canadian tv show to discuss jw child
abuse scandal
this is to alert the jw world that a major tv documentary is set to go in canada on the jw child sex abuse issue.
See that Aztec, it's not so bad living close to Canada, eh? We have more to offer our American neighbors then just good beer, Casinos, and strip clubs.
Stan
longtime lurker and occasional poster here.
i pretty much have already made up my mind, but it seems like alot of good advice can be found here so here goes.... me and my soon to be ex-wife were active duds, rp's, bethel, etc.
we faded together and are now completely out.
Hi FreeWilly,
I feel for you, man. I went through a very similar situation 10 years ago. My ex cheated on me a couple of times. After the first time, I had a real problem trusting her. She "acted" like she was sorry, but after the second time, with a different guy, she was out. I've never regretted my decision to divorce her. It was the best thing I ever did. Now I'm remarried to a Catholic woman, and I have a beautiful baby boy. Had I stayed with the first wife and tried to work things out (over and over) I would not be where I am today-happy.
As for elders, they will crawl out of the wood work and try to get involved. They thrive on this kind of thing. It makes them feel important. DO NOT LET THEM GET INVOLVED! I cannot stress this enough. My ex was living with another guy at the time the elders got involved, and they were telling me that I should forgive her and get back together. They insisted that I had no proof she was sleeping with him. What a bunch of idiots! By the time the meetings were over, they had DF'd her for smoking, (not adultery) and told me that they would have to consider what kind of discipline was appropriate for me. Mind you, I had done nothing wrong. After 6 months they decided to start up again with this issue and insisted that I meet with them. I told them that my life was none of their business, and that I didn't need their "scriptual divorce". It ended up a 45 minute shouting match right in the coat area of the KH. I told the one jackass elder that he was an idiot, and that he had no clue how to handle a case like this. He was pretty worked up, and I was hoping that he was going to shove me. I was ready to "clean his clock" right in the hall.
After selling my house, I moved to an apartment, and another hall. The elders there wanted to meet with me to find out what was going on with my divorce. I refused to meet in the hall, but allowed them to come to my apartment. I explained the situation at which point the younger idiot elder started to chastise me for my disrespectful attitude toward these other idiot elders. The meeting was over in a big hurry. I asked them to leave, and told them that I would never speak to them on the subject of my divorce again.
It never came up again, but word got out fast and nobody would talk to me at this new hall. The elders would see me, and turn their backs. The average rank and file treated me like I was DF'd.
It wasn't long after that I was done with the cult.
Sorry for rambling, but I thought another similar experience might help you to see what may be coming down the road.
Best of luck.
Stan
whats everbodys favorite band, or song?
i like rock.
favorite song of all time is jumper from third eye blind.
My Winamp playlist is full of Rush, Great Big Sea, the Beatles, and Metallica.
Stan
i'm thinking of getting a mod chip for my xbox now that there are solderless ones coming out - i can cope with taking apart a pc like device but i'm better at the 'theoretical' side of electronics when it comes to soldering.. anyone tried them?.
i was thinking of fitting a 120gb drive (or similar) to load games on so the kids can just switch on and go.
obviously, i have no intention of renting games from blockbuster or using my dvd writer in anyway .
Hi Simon,
Coming to Canada, eh? What area are you thinking of moving to?
Stan
this forum is very quiet.. i guess all us with kids are kept too busy to post!.
we have two boys - liam (3) and dylan (1).
how about everyone else ?
I have an 11 month baby boy, Stan Jr.
Stan
at first when we joined, we all choose a user name that would identify us.
we also had the choice of puting a picture next to our user name.
often, some change the picture for a better one.
Hey Geddy,
No way! You have to be kidding!!
Stan
at first when we joined, we all choose a user name that would identify us.
we also had the choice of puting a picture next to our user name.
often, some change the picture for a better one.
Stan Conroy is a senile old elder who used to be the "City Overseer". I felt it was an appropriate alias only because I really don't like the man, and I hope his name popping up here will maybe cause him a little grief.
Also, if and when I say stupid things, it will be "par for the course" for Stan Conroy.
Stan